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January 29, 1929 - July 27, 2000

HBK Punks HHH and Lesnar on RAW!

The Way I See It...

by Earl Oliver

Crossface Connection

by John Cross

All Pro Wrestling News

by Jeremy "Jermz" Medeiros

An Interview with Jardi Frantz

Volume 7, Issue 697 - August 19, 2002
Editor's Note: In this edition of the newsletter we have our weekly Crossface Connection by Solie's regular, John Cross, some APW News from Jermz, plus my own TV Reports and topical rants.

You can get more of the latest news and rumors by listening to this week's Solie's Wrestling Radio report.

The Scrapbook of Joe Wolfe (1940-1954)

I have just posted a major new image gallery! The Scrapbook of Joe Wolfe (1940-1954) contains photographs, newpaper and magazine articles and other memorabilia collected by Ohio wrestler Joe Wolfe, whose career spanned the era of Lou Thesz, Gorgeous George and Buddy Rogers.

All Pro Wrestling News

by Jeremy "Jermz" Medeiros


Recently, APW Superstar & former Internet Champion, "Kamikaze Kid" Jardi Frantz sat down with's Lars Hildebrand for an exclusive in-depth interview, and get to read it right here first, in the APW Internet Newsletter!

Question: Hello Jardi Frantz. Thank you for giving us from the chance to ask some questions.

Answer: You are most welcome!

Question: What first made you want to get into pro wrestling? Were you a wrestling fan growing up? When did you say, "That is what I want to do"?

Answer: I always liked pro wrestling, the drama, the action, and theathleticism. I always wanted to be like the wrestlers and have always been a fan. I have wanted to be a wrestler since I was four years old, but I really seriously decided to take the plunge when I was 16.

Question: Your APW debut was 9/25/98. Was it your first match or have you wrestled in another promotion before that date? Speaking of your first match, what were your thoughts when you were standing in the ring?

Answer: Yes and no. I wrestled backyard before. I recall hoping I would have a good match and I kept telling myself to relax.

Question: At the beginning of your career you've wrestled under masks as El Demonio BeelJim and Chicano Flame 2. What was the reason for wearing a mask?

Answer: I think it was because I wrestled like a Mexican-stylewrestler; that and they told me I looked really young.

Question: At the point you decided to become a wrestler, what did your family & friends say about that decision?

Answer: Age 16. My Mom supported it; everybody else was pretty negative and unsupportive. They laughed. I guess they were jealous because they didn't have the guts to follow their own dreams.

Question: You are working as assistant trainer at the APW Boot Camp. Do you like teaching wrestling to other people? Do you think that you are a good trainer?

Answer: Yes, I really enjoy teaching others. I like to believe that I am a good trainer. I trained my brother, Miyaki, who is really good and also Bobby Quance, who is awesome!

Question: You're working with Robert Thompson & American Dragon as trainers at the Boot Camp. What do you think of both of these guys as wrestlers and as personalities?

Answer: Robert Thompson is really a good wrestler; he's almost as crazy as I am, especially considering his size! I trust him the most with my body; he has given me some very dangerous moves. And, he also knows how to take all of my complicated moves. As for American Dragon, he's good and an intense wrestler. He knows all of the technical aspects of wrestling.

Question: What was your best experience in wrestling? What was the worst?

Answer: My best was wrestling a good match at King of Indies. My worst was driving 3 hours to only get a five minute match.

Question: If you have the chance to wrestle any wrestler in the world at the top of their career, who would you like to wrestle with the most and why?

Answer: Great Sasauke because I think I could have a great match with him because our styles match.

Question: What do you think about APW losing Michael Modest, Tony Jones and Donovan Morgan in just a few months? Was it a chance to bring some new faces to APW or is it a hard (may be to hard) sacrifice for All Pro Wrestling?

Answer: I think it definitely hurt APW a lot, especially in the beginning. We lost a lot more than those three. But on the upside, it was an opportunity to bring in some different wrestlers and now we have more lightweights who wrestle my style, so for me, it is working out just fine. And for APW its working out to everyone's advantage!

Question: If you have got the choice of working for WWE or a major promotion in Japan, which offer would you prefer and why?

Answer: I would wrestle anyplace where I could wrestle my own style. It depends on the promotion in Japan so really, it would all depend on the situation when it presented itself. I like to keep all of my options open and not forestall any offers that may be coming, you know?

Question: On 03/15/02 you won the APW Internet Title. Does it mean anything to you, that you held this title or a title in general?

Answer: Yes, it meant a lot to me. I had never before held a title and I really felt I deserved it!

Question: What was your best match and who did you like to work with? And of course, what was your worst match and who didn't you like to work with?

Answer: My best match was probably with Vinny Massaro last July. Also I had a good match at Koruken Hall where I got a standing ovation. I like working with Bobby Quance, Robert Thompson, American Dragon, Super Dragon. My worst match was probably against B.J. Whitmore. I don't like working with big slow guys who don't know anything.

Question: What do you think about the fans? Do you feel fans today are too demanding? Is it to much "we want more high spots and bumps"?

Answer: I love the fans. I don't feel they are too demanding; that's just how I was when I was a fan. And they are the ones you have to impress. You can't tell fans what to like. You have to give them something new or exciting every time.

Question: What comes to your mind when you hear the following words:

-Sports Entertainment: "WWE"
-All Pro Wrestling: "Home"
-Michael Modest: "Good Wrestler"
-Vince McMahon: "Head Of Wrestling"
-US Indy Wrestling: "Fun"
-Wrestling Is Fake: "Try It"
-Japan: "Strict"
-Super Dragon: "Tough Opponent"
-Gym Warz: "Absolute Chaos"
-Germany: "Foreign"

Question: Is there anything you want to say to your German fans?

Answer: I hope to get to wrestle in front of you one day very soon!

Question: Thanks a lot for answering our questions. We wish you all the best in your future!

Answer: You are most welcome. Thanks for giving me a chance to give the fans some info!

Check out Lars Hildebrands site at and let him know what you thought of his interview with Jardi Frantz and past APW superstars.

Crossface Connection

by John Cross

You know, I got into a really friendly debate with my brother over the way the WWE is written, and he ended up telling me that the sight of Lillian Garcia getting splashed by the Island Boys was one of the funniest things that he had ever seen.

Um...maybe somebody can tell me when it happened, but when did we start thinking that this kind of crap was funny? When did it become popular? When did the physical abuse of a woman enter the 'cool' side of the vernacular? Somebody should tell me, because I can't really function until I find out.

I remember a time when it was unthinkable for a wrestler to strike a woman. Like, at Wrestlemania, when Elizabeth, not Savage, threw out Sensational Sherri. Add to that the reaction when Elizabeth took a bump.....Hulk Hogan saves her....big face pop. When Savage felt umbrage and jealousy at the act, we all booed. Women were protected from the violence. Contrast that to the Wrestlemania of just a couple years ago when Rocky dropped the People's Elbow on Stephanie McMahon. Fifteen thousand people stood as one and cheered.....what? Huh? What did I miss?

Well, this opinion of mine is slowly being replaced by the "she deserves it" mentality. I can remember the big faces ALWAYS holding back on striking a woman. Even a few years ago, when they loosened the strings on that a bit, if a guy hit a woman, he was a heel. Remember Marc Mero's crowd heat when he would berate Sable? He wasn't even hitting her (not that I remember).

Now, I can tell you that I really hate that kind of crap. I don't mind the use of women in the storylines, but the way the WWE uses women, it is for one of the following three things:

1--Basic Sexual Attraction. Get a woman that has large breasts and a pretty face on the camera, and you will get 13-22 year old males to watch. Get her to simulate arousal, or thrust her hips, and you will get them to set their VCR's. That is what I call a cheap hormone pop. It will certainly get the guy's attention. Want proof that this is a big point? Joannie Laurer......look at a picture of her at the time she arrived in the WWF, and when she left. Here, Chyna...have a pair and a new face, pose nude, and write a book about how you are a big hero.

2--Psychological abuse. Trish having to kiss Vince's butt. The mop water. Stacy having to trade sexual favors for the right to be Vince's secretary. Maybe another way of saying it would be "Sexual Harassment". IS that something young guys really like? If it is, I am really, really troubled.

3--Wrestling. This is at the bottom of the list for a really obvious reason, and that is because we only see 3 or 4 women wrestle. Sure, Lita and Jazz are banged up.....but what is the difference between 3 female wrestlers and 5? And, there are about three or four women that are called 'performers' don't wrestle for a living...they are terrible. They are 'Bra and Panties' fodder.....see Point #1.

Now, that isn't the thrust of this column. This column is really about the degredation of the moral standards in the WWE shows, and the fact that all the other feds are forced to follow the lead of the WWE in order to compete.

The WWE featured, within the last three weeks, old women being beaten, grand theft, assault, battery, abuse of a midget, sexual misconduct, white-collar crime, industrial espionage.....huh? WHERE"S THE STINKING WRESTLING? TELL ME!!

What the heck happened? I'm serious! There is wrestling on a wrestling show...somewhere....isn't there? I remember when there were more than 6 matches during a two hour show....don't you? Three matches in 44 minutes of air time, folks. The matches are 4-7 minutes long, so we have 23 minutes of CRAP! Talking, storylines, misdemeanors...what the hell is wrestling coming to?

Listen, folks...I love good storylines. I think that the orchestration of a storyline is of paramount importance. However, I really hate the subject material in these same storylines these days, no matter how well they are constructed.

However, I have to admit that it is reflective of it's audience. Vince is a marketing whiz, and the idea that peole can come up to me and tell me that knocking a 80-year woman through a table is cool is proof positive that is a fact. He somehow figured that the target audience would accept, and even embrace, these ideas.

Is that a reflection of Wrestling? Sports Entertainment? Or....and more this a reflection of the society in general?

Oh well...there is a hope on the horizon. The ratings have dropped to the point that changes may have to be made to the product, above and beyond the writing on Raw. To get back up to the 4.5 and 5.0 rating, the WWE may have to make some product changes that they haven't been able to accomplish in years.

Like cleaning it up a bit.

See you next week, with another Connection.

The Way I See It...

by Earl Oliver

SmackDown! was taped Tuesday at KeyArena in Seattle, Washington and opened with Paul Heyman bringing his monster to the ring and bragging about what he did to Hulk Hogan last week. He managed to finish his dastardly speech before Lesnar's opponent for later tonight interrupted him. Rikishi strode to the ring and told the two of them to be ready because his plan is to treat Lesnar to a stink face. Brock talked some trash which brought the big Samoan into the ring. Lesnar attacked him as he came through the ropes, but Rikishi turned the tables and sent Brock flying over the top rope to the floor. Heyman then got in his face and was almost manhandled - but Lesnar dragged him out of the ring and led him away.

Next up, the new (?) team of Shannon Moore and the Hurricane took Hardcore Holly as their partner to face Upchuck, Billy and Rico. This was a nice mix of high-flying action and pure power wrestling. The face team started strong but were then almost immediately stopped in their tracks. Hurricane was isolated for a while, and then Moore tagged in and all hell broke out for a minute until the former Tag Champs superior (underhanded) team work came the fore and Moore was pinned. Matt Hardy showed up to save the faces from a beating. It turns out that Matt has been signed to SmackDown!

Backstage, Stephanie gave Dawn Marie a dressing down (don't I wish..:-), telling her how badly she screwed up last week by giving the infamous "papers" to Stacy "the Mole". She was upset because now Chris Benoit was going to have to defend his Intercontinental Title at SummerSlam. Steph told Dawn to start dressing more professionally then sent her to bring back Benoit for a conference.

Benoit showed up at Stephanie's office and promised to beat Rob Van Dam then also agreed to take on the Rock in tonight's main event (wait a minute, isn't the Rikishi vs. Brock Lesnar match supposed to be the main event? ...I'm sooo confused...) Meanwhile, Matt Hardy was trying to drum up some enthusiasm for his arrival among his vanquished "friends". They didn't know what to make of him. In another part of the building, Kurt Angle claimed that his loss to Rey Misterio last week "didn't count". In the middle of his rant, Misterio came out and interrupted him to challenge him to a match at SummerSlam! so he could beat him again and "make it count". Angle hemmed and hawed, pretending like he didn't think the Lucha star was serious. When pressed, however, he agreed. Mark Henry then strolled up and used the same insult that Angle had used on Misterio (little man). Angle was incensed and allowed himself to be goaded into a match against Henry later tonight.

In fact, that match was next. Henry dominated the early going easily. But then Angle turned the tables and started working on the big guy's leg. Try as he might however, he was having a hard time putting his opponent away. Henry managed to reverse and kick out of the ankle lock on the first occasion. But a little later he surrendered to it. Rey Misterio ran in and did a little number on Angle after the match.

The next match was Rikishi vs. Lesnar (I guess it wasn't the main event...) Right away, Lesnar showed off his superior amateur background, finessing the big guy with a fireman's carry early on. Moments later, Rikishi rushed Lesnar in the corner and ran his shoulder into the post. Lesnar went right to work on the injured body part, and was soon going for the pin. Rikishi kicked out, but he was clearly weakened. Lesnar slapped on a bear hug. Rikishi tried to fight back but Lesnar bulled him into the corner. Suddenly the big Samoan exploded out of the corner and Brock was on the defensive. Lesnar was driven back and ended up in perfect position for the stink face. Heyman tried to interfere and got stink faced, despite Lesnar's abortive attempt to intervene. Afterwards, however, Lesnar surprised Rikishi from behind and hit the F5 on him to take the pin. This was no roll-over opponent, however - Lesnar knew he was in a fight.

Backstage, Nidia was trying to tempt Funaki when Batista threw his ex-mentor, Devon, through the door yelling - "...there's your respect!"

Torrie and Nidia had a match in which each demonstrated her inability to wrestle but her ability to look good in skimpy clothes. Their respective men friends (Kidman and Jamie Noble, respectively) were on hand to get in the way. Noble managed to win the fight for his lady.

Backstage, Eddie and Chavo Guerrero ran through a Spanish accented comedy routine - then we cut to commercial.

Their match was next - against Rey Misterio and Edge. This one was over way to quick - in DQ because the Guerrero's kept double teaming - I guess.

The Rock was interviewed backstage and had several choice things to say to Brock Lesnar and his opponent in the next match - Chris Benoit. After he finished his tag line and walked away, we saw Lesnar lurking in the hallway looking like he was up to no good.

The Rock Took on Chris Benoit, and we knew that since he just tapped out to the Wolverine a while back, that this time he would win the match. In fact the fight was pretty competitive but Maivia was on the ascendency when Brock Lesnar came out and showed his face, thus providing some good distraction. Benoit took advantage of his opponent's preccupation to sneak in a Crippler Crossface, the Rock managed to escape and followed up with a Rock Bottom to win the match. he then challenged the "Next Big Thing", who just smiled and walked away.

Raw came to us live from Norfolk Scope Arena, Norfolk, Virginia with a lot of hoopla over tonight's main event - the Rock vs. Triple H. But to open the show, the Undertaker rode down to the ring for a rant - against the Canadian Whiners, so doubt. Sure enough, he opened right up with a patriotic harangue. Test came down in the middle of his speech and got in his face. That sparked a brawl and the rest of Test's cronies were on their way down when Booker T and Goldust ran down to even the odds. The Whiners back pedaled until Booker proposed a 6 man match for later tonight. Then they paused long enough to agree.

After the break the room was filled with wrestlers, and Terri Runnels. Eric Bischoff came to the platform and announced that all of them are former (or the current) Hardcore Champs - and he has decided to eliminate the 24-7 rule (thank God!!) He then turned loose for a brawl for the next six minutes - at the end of which the man to take the last pinfall would be the champ! Terri split for the back immediately. Bradshaw pinned current champ Tommy Dreamer soon after. A few minutes later, Crash took the pin on Bradshaw. In the ring, Spike was setting up a table. Bubba Dudley put Crash through a table, but then had to defend himself from an attack by Tommy Dreamer, who fell on Crash and got the pin. With less than a minute left, Bubba and Bradshaw were fighting over Dreamer's carcass. Spike was back in it as well. But Dreamer survived and thus retained his Hardcore Title. Kane's music and video then appeared (apropos of nothing...)

Back in Eric's office, Trish and Stacy were in the middle of an argument, when Bischoff walked in and told them to get ready for a bra and panties the Trish won and Howard Finkel got what..?

The Rock arrived backstage and was stopped by a staff member who gave him a FedEx package from Paul Heyman. After doing a little comedy routine with the young lady, Mavia opened the package to find photos of a bloodied Hulk Hogan taken immediately following his match against Brock Lesnar.

Triple H came to the ring and called upon Shawn Michaels to hurry up and sign the contract for their match as SummerSlam. He then turned his attention to Brock Lesnar, pointing out that he has a match with the Rock later, and so he is sure that Lesnar is sitting home watching the show. He further announced that Bischoff has made it into a no DQ match. He told Lesnar that he intended to leave just enough of the Rock to compete at the PPV - then he will be waiting for Brock Lesnar to challenge him for the World Title. At that point, the Millennium Bug showed up to crash the party. They traded verbal barbs, then Jericho launched into a rant of his own, telling Hunter that he and Jericho have a lot in common. For instance they are both set to face "washed up has beens" at Summerslam. He continued, tooting his own horn until Flair walked out and threw a trash can over his head then knocked him down.

Next up was the "Patriotic 6 Man" match - the Canadian Whiners vs. Booker T, Goldust and the Undertaker. A regular knock-down, drag out affair which ended when Christian walloped Goldust with one of the Tag Title belts.

Backstage, the Big Show proposed to Eric Bischoff that he take on Rob Van Dam tonight for his IC Title match at SummerSlam. Bischoff was reluctant to allow it, but RVD wanted to have the match so Eric agreed on the condition that it be a clean match and not for the title. Meanwhile, Jericho got some revenge on Flair backstage during an interview.

That match was next and quickly degenerated into an all out brawl. The Show was about to bash RVD with the ring steps in the ring when Bischoff came out and started berating him - then told him he had...three minutes. Rosie and Jamal showed up and punked the big guy.

The Rock conducted his own interview backstage (as usual), regarding his main event match later tonight.

Fozzy (Chris Jericho's band) played next. They were excruciatingly bad...but maybe that is only my opinion... Apparently the audience agreed with me because the band was thoroughly booed. Then Ric Flair ran out and punked the band!! Just before the commercial break, Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman showed up and took some ringside seats. Heyman called the Rock's voicemail and left a message, telling him they would be there.

The much anticipated main event was next. Triple H vs. The Rock in a non-title match. As we returned from the break, Bischoff was at the railing with a phalanx of security men telling Heyman that if either of them even made a move toward the ring, they would be thrown out of the building - yeah - like that's going to work... The principles were introduced and engaged in some mutual trash talk before getting down to business. The Rock dominated the early moments and took the fight out to the floor - where HHH turned the tables. Back in the ring, Hunter continued his dominance - meanwhile the security guys kept a close eye on Heyman and Lesnar. As HHH was going for his sledge hammer, Brock lesnar jumped the rail and then Shawn Michaels showed up!! He attacked HHH but the game came right back and knocked him to the floor. Lesnar came into the ring - then HBK was back. He hit a super kick on Lesnar that sent him flying right back over the railing!! He then hit HHH with a suicide dive - and thus the program ended.

Not a bad set-up for the PPV...

At least that's the way I see it...

Earl Oliver
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